Nagaoka cartridge comparison forum. Research says a good cartridge is the Nagaoka MP 110.

Nagaoka cartridge comparison forum Seems to slow down time just a bit but doesn't quite make up for losing an hour this morning! Picked up a MP-500 recently. Frankly, there really aren't many bad cartridges these days, mostly just degrees of good, and Nagaoka Cartridge fans? this is just my experience though as there are many happy folks as evident on this forum and others, using the MP-500 stylus on the MP-150/Mp-200 carts out there, but I would be interested in knowing how many have actually heard the MP-500 complete cart to compare. Instruments seem to be in the exact same place on both cartridges. displayname, May 15, 2018 #9. As high compliance cartridges went slowly away, I replaced my SME III tonearm with a Jelco MMT tonearm. I think my phono pre-amp has enough gain to work with the EL but would have to set the loading to 1K, below that it would be 330 Ohms. IMHO, given what I heard in the video, I much prefer the MP-110 for what I feel is a more open ambient and engaging sound. hence it is so often compared with the 2M Black, Ortofon's flagship mm. discussion. in Nagaoka phono cartridges has piqued my curiosity regarding the line. It's entirely possible these new JT cartridges are just those with a new body and some small Only real difference I note between the 300 and the 200 is that the 300 has, again to my ears, a slightly wider soundstage and frankly that is about it. Any other cartridge recommendations are I just ordered one of these from Japan. Has this top-of-the-range cartridge stood the test of time? For many audiophiles the transition from using a moving-magnet (MM) cartridge in a 'starter' system to a moving-coil (MC) by way of upgrade is something of a rite of passage. One day I liked to have Soundsmith put a his boron cantilever with NCL onto my spare DL-103R. Apr 5, 2010. Had been using a Denon 301 MKII with a Bob's devices transformer 20x. Turns out it's a Czech site. but hopefully my comparisons to the Blue are helpful. 0 Facebook Twitter Pinterest Email. The sound from the MP-500/Reed tonearm combo is impressive. Your TT came with a Ortofon Silver cartridge having a Compliance of 20 µm/mN. Back to Nagaoka's MP-200: an outstanding phono cartridge that successfully blends high-ish resolution with classic analog warmth. I assume the other Nagaoka cartridges are like the MP-500, where the underside of the cartridge has two facets, one angled up towards the front, and one angled up towards the rear. Compared to the Stanton TOTL cartridges which had a compliance of 30, the Grado’s were less sure footed and could not track nearly as well as the Stantons. Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by VinylSoul, Apr 18, 2011. Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Vocals are very warm on the Nagaoka, but instruments aren't detailed enough for me, and dynamics aren't as good as on the ZYX. Nagaoka MP-500 cartridge. This the same as the JT-1210 that was developed for and came with the 1200GAE sold in Japan 2. The Nagaoka MP-200 turntable cartridge delivers a warm, rich, and musical sound with excellent detail retrieval, making it ideal for a wide range of music genres. Have you tried a different stylus with your cartridge? It lacked sparkle compared to the much cheaper Ortofon. Nagaoka has different overhead and markups which is why they charge more for their cartridges. by mcand. Home Forums > Discussions > Audio Hardware > Nagaoka Cartridge fans? Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by DaleClark, Feb 15, 2022. 00 Whether that price raises howls The Nagaoka cartridge line used to be pretty good value, especially the MP-200 but since their gigantic price hike a few years ago, now they are quite the opposite. MP-11 Boron: Great performing cart that can be upgraded even further by fitting a modern MP-200 stylus. But the price difference makes it worthy. Thread starter cerx; Start date Jan 9, 2024; C. Low end cartridges like an MP-110 or Grado Red do not have fancy cantilevers either. Jun 30, 2019 #20 Balifly said: Any difference between Nagaoka MP-11, MP-100, MP-110 Nagaoka Cartridge? spn_ai; Apr 5, 2010; Turntables; Replies 0 Views 2K. Generally new cartridges start at around -45 dB at 1kHz, even $11 ones like the AT3600L. Maybe price for boron has gone up, but here they use 5-6mm length. The Nagaoka MP500 stands at the top of Nagaoka’s phono cartridge line. You need to compare the nagaoka 200 with the vm740ml. However, to answer your questions, it is a very good cartridge and yes, you will need a spacer but I am unsure of thicknesses available. Has anybody here compared these two? Do you think the Nagaoka would be an improvement to my upgraded m97xe? Your opinions are much Forums. Nagaoka MP-110. I chose the JT 80bk because 1. Over the years I have measured my phono cartridges using spot Lately I have been reading a lot of great things about the Nagaoka MP-110 cartridge and am quite intrigued by it. Amp . Cyclone Ranger likes this. /Mp-200 carts out there, but I would be Hi all, Currently running a Nagaoka MP-200 on a Rega Planar 6, Rega Fono MM, Denon PMA-1600NE, and KEF R3s. Looking into the Nagaoka MP series cartridges and wondering what the height spec is? In other words, the dimension from the cartridge/headshell interface to the tip of the stylus at recommended VTF. juno6000 likes this. Nagaoka Cartridge fans? For what it's worth, I just tried a 200 stylus on my 150 cartridge and didn't hear a difference from the 150 stylus, so I returned the 200 stylus. Which cartridge would you replace it with? L. Also tried the MP-150: the 150 is better in every aspect, but the general sound is very similar, and the advantage of the 150 is not that much to justify the hefty price difference. Bought it through ebay from Japan. The difference between the 300 and 500 isn't that big in I own a 150 and still listen to it a bit. It was beat out by the Ortofon Anna, but that cartridge and table are way out of my league! I wish they had the Denon DL-301MKII to compare it to the Nagaoka. JohnMichael Vinyl Rega Planar 2, Incognito rewire, Deepgroove subplatter, ceramic bearing, Michell Technoweight, Rega 24V motor, TTPSU, FunkFirm Achroplat platter, Michael Lim top and bottom braces, 2 Rega feet and one RDC cones. New Rega mm are not specificly designed just for Rega arms. Thread starter jusphish; Start date May 30, 2021; Tags cartridge hana japanese nagaoka rega turntable had considered the Nagaoka MP-200 (or even the MP-150 to save a bit) if staying with MM. If you’re doing calculations keep in mind the difference between the Japanese compliance numbers and the European numbers. Japanese Cartridge Comparison . So, it's not that the cartridge is quieter, but that it's allowing the preamp to deliver the same output signal level using less gain, which means less thermal noise. When I put the Nag back to do the needledrops, I was surprised how much they sound more alike now than before. If you want to hear a comparison of the Nagoaka DL-110 to the Denon DL-110, I have several of them up on my YouTube channel. Currently I'm running a Stanton 680 HiFi with the original stylus - probably about 1000 hours on it. As for the stylus lifespan, I believe the consensus is that their numbers are very conservative. The difference seems now very subtle to my ears. In this comparison, we’ll closely examine the tracking ability and performance of the Ortofon 2M Blue and the Nagaoka MP-110 cartridges, shedding light on their precision and distortion-free tracking. In one video, the Nagaoka MP-150 ($350) was favored over the Hana EL and Ortofon Quintet Blue low output moving coils. The Yamamoto is a bit thicker than the Nagaoka head shell but the combined weight is 17. At my max price range i have two option they both cost the same the Nagaoka MP-500H or the Audio Technics AT33Sa, the first is MM cartridge with headshell included second one is MC with good wires included and i can use my technics-1200sl brand . The Nagaoka’s compliance is within an acceptable range for the Carbon tonearm. If it helps at all, I started a thread here (hold onrummages aroundAh! there it is: Comparison between Nagaoka MP-110 and original Pioneer PC-50) [note: I think my free soundcloud account has reached its download limit, so if Please do not base your cartridge purchases off of YouTube reviewers, or a single song sample on YouTube. I’m not certain if one could buy a head shell without the cartridge. Hi jurgente, welcome to AK! A decision like choosing a cart can be challenging, but I believe you can't go wrong either way. Because there is difference in all MP series stylus. To compare Nagaoka to Ortofon, for example, requires an assumption of a multipliersomewhere around 1. It is not attached to the cantilever, that's what the Nagaoka MP family is all about. Had the AT120e and M97xE before it, and they struck me as being too bright and having too much IGD and sibilance respectively. 3x 7 mil, . It's been mentioned in this forum before about the difficulty in AudioKarma Audio Forums. I don't think Nagaoka recommends swapping the MP-500 stylus into the MP-200 I have never heard a Nagaoka cartridge before so if anyone has tried the above setup or have any thoughts or opinions on this cartridge please let me know. Generally when you replace a Rega cartridge with anything else then a spacer will be required. MP = Moving Permalloy. Just moved it from the Micro DD-40 to the BL-91 yesterday and made a recording that I posted in another thread. Love my MP-110 on my Rega P3. Just something to be aware of if you are buying these carts. The Nagaoka is very smooth, it doesn't call opinions on Sumiko Amethyst Phono Cartridge I was planning to get a 2m bronze but im able to pick up a new Sumiko Amethyst for almost the same cost as the bronze . IGD is also very low, easily beating the 2M Red and the AT95E. After extended listening with a lot of cartridges from vintage MM (Shure V15v/Jico), current MM (Ortofon 2M all series), low-medium dollar LOMC (Ortofon Quintet Bronze, AT ART 9XI, others. Home Forums > Discussions > Audio Hardware > (a great feature of this turntable that people seem not to appreciate too much but actually makes a big difference). The pricing seems very keen. I had Amazon gift cards. The cheapest I see on ebay is $425 from Japan. The MP-200 stylus you can still get for quite cheap for what it is - AFAIK it's the cheapest stylus with Boron cantilever around. The reason people aren't beating down the doors to buy the MOFI cartridges is that they are basically rebodied cartridges manufactured by Audio Technica. With any nagaoka cart my experience and the experience I've read and been told first hand are that at first it's just a nice cartridge. This is just an "okay" or "nice" phono cartridge, but nothing special and certainly not worth the $500 price tag. In that sense it is the best budget cartridge you can buy, because it does so many things so well. They present a tangible soundstage and are quite remarkable in their ability to suppress surface noise. Should I get the OEM pre-mounted headshell with it, or save $100 and use the Technics headshell? The MP-500 sounds so much better to me on the lighter stock Technics headshell. If it were me I would skip the MOFI carts unless you are getting some kind of substantial package discount. The Nagaoka is more competitive with the 2M Blue in these respects. Would I be better selling my MP-50 and use the funds towards purchasing an MP500 to get the latest specification cartridge. Experience the image solidity, detail resolution, and bass extension that made the Nagaoka MP-500 one of Stereophile’s Editors’ Top Picks For The Industry’s Best Products. In fact, the Nagaoka file ended up coming in 2nd when I did the comparison. A generator in a high output MM or MI cartridge is nothing but some coils of wire and pole pieces with a piece of plastic or metal to hold it all. Basically, you kinda need to distinguish between how something is ‘voiced’ (which the cart has a big say in), and how good a representation of that ‘voice’ are you getting (which the TT/arm has a huge effect on). These are both very good cartridges - I have the MP500 but my only AT is the Anniversary special edition 150ANV. ca NAGAOKA MP-100 MM PHONO - NAGAOKA MP-110 MM PHONO CARTRIDGE - NAGAOKA MP-150 MM PHONO CARTRIDGE - NAGAOKA MP-200 MM PHONO CARTRIDGE - NAGAOKA MP-300 MM PHONO CARTRIDGE - NAGAOKA MP-500 MM PHONO CARTRIDGE - NAGAOKA MP-100H MM PHONO I am looking to replace my audio technica at140mlb with another cartridge. Home Forums > Discussions > Audio Hardware > IMO, we should not swap Nagaoka stylus. Phono Cartridge Nagaoka MP-500 Speaker ProAc Tablette Get the best deals on All Nagaoka Cartridges at vinylsound. Hi, this is my first post here, i am trying to get a replacement cartridge for my Vintage SL-1500mk1 from 76’. I've been looking into the nagaoka mp-150 for a different sound Log in or Sign up. Pho 800 TT. Digital Sony SCD-XA5400ES SACD/cd SID mat, Marantz SA 8001 Int. Nagaoka Cartridge fans? uncommon recommendation back then among the small group of Brazilian audiophiles that used to meet in an old Brazilian forum, where I learned about the cartridge before I found SHF. Today, I’ll compare two of the most popular choices on the market: the Ortofon 2M Blue vs. By current standards, its output into a standard 47kohm load remains a 'middling' 3. Hi Guys I was lucky enough to be given from David at Analogue Depot, a the newly released Nagaoka JT-80LB MM ( RR $339 ) cartridge to have a listen to and compare with some of my carts I’ll start firstly by listing the equipment I used. I'm wanting to plunge into the world of vinyl, and was looking to pickup a Technics 1210 turntable, and a Nagaoka MP200 cartridge. Something is clearly wrong there. First album I played I was impressed. In fact, the stylus is the part For instance, if you have a £200 turntable, then a £50-£70 cartridge should be adequate, while a £650 turntable (such as the Rega Planar 3) will require a cartridge that's about £150-£200 (such as the matching Rega Nd3 cartridge). Turntables . Most Nagaoka users tend to skip the MP-300 and go straight for the MP-500 due to Nagaoka's pricing structure. Now, these tests can vary due to how different test records are cut but his results on the Nagaoka were WAY out of spec, like 16dB-ish per channel. I found my cartridge, Nagaoka MP-500 punkmusick, Jan 3, 2019 #210. Try tightening or loosening the cartridge fixing nuts, the sound will also change. I'm considering a new cart instead of a new stylus for my Thorens TD166 MkII. Surprisingly the overall tone for this permalloy cartridge is not too far from the Denon with slight differences. Until very recently I swapped between 3 MM cartridges: Goldring 1042, Ortofon 2M black and Nagaoka MP 150/20. Nagaoka Cartridge fans? Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by DaleClark, Feb 15, 2022. However, as Japanese AudioKarma Audio Forums. 4 x . The only Nagaoka I've owned was an MP-110, a cartridge that received high praise. MP300 Since they don't sell cartridges by themselves, I'll need to either spring for a full MP200 set or an MP300. Amp Krell S I plan on making a few cartridge purchases this year for my 1200gr. ) high dollar LOMC (currently have Koetsu RSP and EMT JSD 6, and listen to a friends Lyra Etna quite frequently), I actually prefer the Nagaoka’s headshells look nice. In other way we're talking about different animals. Quick links Post by HondaKia » 08 May 2020 03:18 Any thoughts on the differences between a Nagaoka MP-110 and an AT VMN 95EN? Same price range, just wondering about the rendition. The issue I'm having is that the high frequencies are very limited and the stereo separation is also not that great. I think it would be hard to eat my HS-4 headshell. 3 gram difference. I like the looks 4. Kinda nerve wracking fumbling with all the adjustments & delicate stylus, in order to correctly setup each cartridge. For whatever reason it sounded blah in my system. The difference was hardly noticeable, at best. Reviews: Turntables: Tonearms: Cartridges: Cartridge Reviews: 2441 . He tested some other cartridges to compare including a vintage Ortofon and it met or exceeded spec. Any variation or change to the very important joint between the arm and turntable will alter the sound quality. The VM540ML is a little more 'crisp' on high frequencies, but not bright vs the MP-200 more relaxed response. The Boron cantilever gets all kinds of praise, as does the line-contact Diamond stylus, and being a 3mv moving magnet design, it would make a good fit for the phono stage in my old McIntosh C26 My first real cartridge on a Dual cs505 2 , it was really good and very forgiving, easy to set up and align too. Take a look at this comparison of 11 different MM JT-80BK (Black) just released in October 2020, and JT-80LB (Lapis Blue) will release later this year under Jewel Tone product line. In the Darlington FAQ, Keith states "A surprising number of clients are, in fact, deciding that the combination of a truly-high-end high-output-level cartridge (often the excellent Nagaoka MP-500 Moving Iron unit, Nagaoka MP-500 Cartridge Review ), mounted on a good turntable, and combined with a Darlington Labs MP-7, represents an “End-Stop After researching, it seems that the Nagaoka MP-200 is the sweet spot that I'm looking for but I'd like to know what others think, since I won't be able to demo a Planar 6 with MP-200. Most people don’t realize that the stylus is the most important part of any turntable cartridge. 1. Quick 2-minute clip of "Love For Sale" from Somethin' Else if anyone interested, this from the recent Blue Note Classic series, not the greatest pressing but not bad, only about 5 hours of music playing and another 8 hours of the stylus sitting on I can hear the difference and correctly identified which was which in the video's final blind sample. I haven't seen any threads about comparing the Shure with this particular stylus to the Nagaoka. Sometimes you get a shield plate. JT-80BK (Black) just released in October 2020, and JT-80LB (Lapis Blue) will release later this year under Jewel Tone product line. To add a review or rate a cartridge, browse for the model and use the review form. The idea being that the Technics would be easy to setup, basically idiot and bullet proof - and generally not fussy. It's your right, of course. You The interest shown by Prime Minister and MikeT. I'd go for either elliptical. In the end you'd let your ears decide . tv On Nagaoka’s site, they list the 300 (w/no headshell) at 7. The MP-200 stylus on the 110 body is clearly better to my ears. For example, MP300 stylus and MP200 stylus look same, both cantilevers are boron, diamond tips are elliptical. It's not that huge a difference: Grado Gold 2, for example, is MUCH lower (in spite of being advertised as 4 mV too). Nagaoka sold a lot of cartridges that way The Nagaoka MP-500 phono cartridge offers the highest musical and creative expression of the new MP series. Also, it's mentioned that it's a Nagaoka copy also sold under the Lenco name. What's the deal about Nagaoka cartridges compliance, there are given numbers from the manufacturer but when I read about them on different forums some Home. This is the wrong comparison. To check how it would mate up to a SL-1200G and available VTA adjust with the stock mat. They list the 200 at 6. ダイヤモンドレコード針のナガオカ・NAGAOKA CO. I've gone through 2 Nagaoka MP-300 cartridges over the past month and a half, both with issues in only the left channel. 00 off Sumiko's list price . And so, I'm looking for a good replacement cartridge without breaking the bank—should I get a I can only compare the Nagaoka MP-110, MP-110 with an MP-200 stylus, and the Ortofon 2m Red. They have ordinary aluminum cantilevers like many other cartridges. For comparison, when I use the MP-500 I have to turn the volume knob approximately one "notch" higher than with the VM540ML. Both cartridges are highly regarded for their performance and offer distinct characteristics. I bought JT80BK to replace my 200 hours MP110. Unsure as to what cartridge to get next, the MP-500 seems the natural upgrade but for that price, you could get a Hana SL and I’ve read nothing but positives for it. Which model represents the best value in the line? Currently, it still has its original Pioneer cartridge from the 70s but it's worn out. So now I'm trying to decide upon cartridge for it. Member Offline Location: UK Posts: 461. What have you compared Nagaoka to cartridge wise? McLover, bluemooze, RunningWithScissors and 6 others like this. Like I said before, being outside the ideal zone does not mean it sounds bad, but it does mean that it could sound better. The flagship of Nagaoka's 'Moving Permalloy' range can trace its lineage back to ADC's 10E pick-up from 1964. I'm more familiar with those who have combined the MP-110 with JN-P150 stylus, about which I've read good reviews. Nagaoka describes the sound of the system as "open and powerful". One other forum user expressed his experience of the two as below. But now that both these cartridges have at least 30 hours each I guess the Blue broke in and smoothed out. I will try to summarise the differences (to my old ears). When the time comes, just pop a new $85 stylus on their $14 cartridge. If you don't like treble boost, avoid the 540ML unless you are willing to use parallel resistive loading to load down the cartridge to 39K. 5 grams. That comparison was very enlightening to go through. New posts Trending Search forums. It seems the few responders weren't overly impressed. Nagaoka Cartridges I'm not sure what changes were made to yours by Nagaoka but any little difference in construction on a stylus can make large differences in sound. When it comes to turntable cartridges, the Nagaoka MP-110 and Ortofon 2M Blue are two popular options that often spark debates among vinyl enthusiasts. Both models should be delivered this winter. On my SL-1500c, I have an MP-200 installed on the stock Technics headshell, and the MP-500 installed on a vintage ‘80s Technics headshell which is even lighter (by about 0. Whereas the Denon puts a slight emphasis on the edge of the notes, the Nagoaka MP-500 is a bit smoother but still extended in range. My conclusions: All three cartridges are good, but sound quite different from each other. Home Forums > Discussions If I put a MP200 stylus on a MP150 cartridge would I basically have a MP200 cartridge or are there other differences between the two besides the stylus? Of course, when we go to high-end spheres, the devices of different configurations do not show significant differences in character, while in the middle class this difference is easily noticeable. I love the overall look and feel compared to the Technics. 95 Canadian Dollars Disco cartridges are offered by Stanton, Shure, and, amazingly, Decca. For comparison my other TT currently has a Shelter 501II that has been retipped with line contact stylus and I have also used an Ortofon Cadenza Bronze. It expertly extracts and reproduces with vivid, colorful and dimensional clarity what others miss. I'm also attracted by the interchangeability between Nagaoka cartridges and stylus and thought about getting a MP110 stylus with the MP200 as a spare/back-up. I’ll Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Depends on how well the resonance is controlled. You can't really get rid of all the high frequency rise, just minimize it, and the Nagaoka carts may be flatter and more rolled off at the top, hard to say, I haven't seen any independent test results. However, I noticed that it says "ideal for Classical and Jazz". Based on reading the forums, I'm considering: Nagaoka MP 110 Steve Hoffman Music Forums. I am unfamiliar with the 200, but have a 500. So glad I found this forum. Forums. The beginning will be made with the JT-80BK, which will be available in Germany from November. about 110. even over YouTube you can tell the difference between the MP An advanced stylus shape like microline, micro ridge, fritz geiger, etc. And the one cartridge that matched the tonality of the HD Tracks version almost exactly was the "but when I alter the VTA I hear a difference" Of course you do. This is what's moved by the cantilever. do some searches on the forum. The MP 500 is Nagaoka's top cartridge. MP300 Your review of both cartridges is exactly what they say about the differences. Is My conclusions: All three cartridges are good, but sound quite different from each other. The output voltage is 5 mV (5 cm / s). robusa, Feb 22, I summed my amp to mono (to eliminate variances in stereo separation) and adjusted the gain of all the files to match. You I've heard comparisons between using a 2M Black stylus on a 2M Red body and then a 2M Black stylus on a 2M Black body. 5-String , Nov 5, 2023 Hey all, I have a vintage Pioneer TT (PL-71) that I currently am using a Nagaoka MP-110 on which sound fantastic (pumping it through a Mani Schiit preamp). I thought it was worth exploring the sound of a modestly priced cartridge (compared to top-tier MC carts) mounted to a quality tonearm. I replaced the stock Ortofon 2m Red cart with the 110. Many Japanese sites list it at that price. I thought I'd go up a level or two, and came to the Nagaoka MP 200. It can be very interesting comparison of Rega ND 07 with Nagaoka 200, Ortofon Steve Hoffman Music Forums. I owned a MP-110 earlier and thought it was unremarkable compared to others in its price range, but recently bought a MP-200 and love it, as in favorite cartridge to date among many. Post by gsq4848 » 08 May 2020 08:45 Will the AT cartridge fit the TP50 The Nagaoka MP-500 phono cartridge offers the highest musical and creative expression of the new MP series. The "Ideal" zone however is from 12cu to 14cu. What Hi-Fi Feedback. The MP-200 really isn't in the same league as the 1042. particularly in comparison to the CM Bronze with its fine line stylus. The compliance of 6 noted for is probably the equivalent of around 11 for comparison to an Ortofon. It also seems to be an excellent cartridge to use with the Jelco 750 tonearms and Technics SP10 But what is Nagaoka NM11a? It's really difficult to find any info about old Nagaoka cartridges, I suppose they've been in business as long there's been vinyl. The impedance remained fixed at 47 Kohm and between 40dB and 45dB of gain depending on the cartridge, except in the case of the Micro Benz that was loaded with 100 ohms and 50dB due to its Moving Coil (MC) characteristics. I'm looking to replace with a budget of about $100. The Ortofon 2M Blue impresses with its advanced tracking ability, making it adept at navigating complex sections of vinyl records. This is an excellent cartridge that I feel is very deserving of our Gold Star Award for performance, and value. I attribute the MP-500's good detail retrieval and quickness to Quite a bit more. 95), which is in the value sweet spot for cartridges I like to play with. A more apt comparison would be the MP-500. Denon DL-103R Review Everything just sounds buttery and even the surface noise seems to be dampened compared to my old cartridge. Possibly the bass a bit more in ones face, but is so minimal I might be imagining it. 0 mil conical. I tried several cartridges, like AT-VM520EB, 2M blue, Concorde MK2 Club, but this is the one I am always getting back to. The healthy output is combined with a high degree of compatibility The black perhaps sounds slightly more refined, but for a cartridge many times more expensive, there isn't much in it to be fair. Nagaoka MP200 vs. Even with the TT switched off, when exchanging cartridges, all AT remain silent except the Nagaoka. Can anyone compare the MP-500 to a Rega Exact 2? Would be interested in hearing your thoughts. To check out the brand, I decided to try the entry-level Nagaoka MP-110 ($169. Stanton's disco needles are sized . So much so that I think it might be defective or damaged in some way. Reminder too that some cartridges can be tricky in these areas. LeBud, Feb 19, 2022 #62. Quick bump for this thread. Offers & Deals. The MP-500 is a nice cartridge, but quite expensive and out of the reach of an average vinyl fan, most likely. Try simply tightening or loosening the main arm fixing nut, the sound will change. This is only in comparison and the upside is the lack of any spit, sibilance AudioKarma Audio Forums. The Nagaoka MP 110 is more often compared to cartridges costing twice, or even higher. I have used all 3 on a SME M2 -9/ Gyrodec SE and on a Technics 1200GR. I am looking to expand upon the cartridge and have been eyeing the MP-200 for a while but am also curious as to the performance I might get out of the AT740 cartridge. Nad C368 Phono Stage. Gallery. cerx Member. Denon MC cartridges, for example, are notorious for having distortion above -20 dB starting below 10kHz so don't confuse normal behavior for wear-created distortion. 500 feels tighter and more refined, but is no less engaging or fun to listen to. I found out from a former forum member that a MP-200 stylus would work on a MP-11 or MP That is exactly my experience with the Nagaoka as well on my Technics SL-1500. Clear audio MM. Ortofon 2M Blue. Tracking: I tend to track at Signet was made by Audio-Technica, so you can look at current AT models, but ML (MicroLine) stylus is superior to E (Elliptical). I know it's rolled off in the top octave compared to some of my other carts, and has some differences down The Nagaoka MP-150 and MP-200 share the same innards inside but the difference is the cantilever material with the MP-150 being aluminum and the MP-200 using boron. Over the years I have measured my phono cartridges using spot frequencies and manual analysis. I often think the music used for these comparisons is poor, in that better quality recordings should be used to compare the differences between cartridges: That doesn't mean elliptical it's as good as fine line stylus, because you're improving the internal motor in the cartridge. Compared to the Ortofon, it was an improvement, but not sure if it lived up to my expectations based on all the hype I For example, my MP-500 is rated at 8. I'm trying not to get this too long - but the first one had hum in the left channel, then actually stopped Forum. Nagaoka have wonderful tagline – ‘the authentic vinyl sound’ which immediately tells you where they are coming from – All Nagaoka cartridges have a characteristic rich and full sound with great bass and dynamics. 75 grams. FAQ. You may also like. Don’t get me wrong I love the AT95E and I think its a great cartridge, but I’m so glad that I pulled the trigger on this one. Japanese Cartridge Comparison. Incorporating a line-contact stylus mounted on a boron cantilever, it is designed for connection to a MM phono stage, and costs $699. The most likely difference in body construction between MP-110 and MP-200 is the the coil windings. In my experience doing direct comparisons on my 1200-GR between the 150 and the 500, the 500 upgrade is well worth it. The Nagaoka did not sound 'thin' to me. I also think the 500 line-contact stylus, properly aligned, is better at tracking and handling Forum. However, they will be dependent on implementation factors such as the electrical loading, especially capacitive load (to which I have found the MP-110 I've been upgrading a Rega TT for a bit now (a couple of other threads here in TT Forum) and finally got a real cartridge - the Nagaoka MP-500. spn_ai. Nagaoka MP 110. That matches the VM540ML. Nagaoka prices have definitely skyrocketed within the past Sunday spinning the always amazing Lucrecia Dalt ¡Ay! on magenta vinyl, one of my big favorites of the last few years, and sounding very nice too via the Nagaoka MP-500 and Micro Seiki BL-91 into my DIY NOS phono stage, and Conrad-Johnson tube preamp and amp. Then, compare his modified DL-103R on the SME 3009 on Sony 2251 and same cartridge mod on the Technics. yes we compared the Ortofon 2M with Nagaoka MP-50 and Clearaudio Virtuoso Every time I order a cartridge from abroad, Nagaoka from Japan, Goldring from UK, Garrott Brothers from Australia, I am getting very nervous. 5g. In this article, we will delve into a comprehensive comparison of the Nagaoka MP-110 and Ortofon 2M Blue, examining While youtube comparison videos won't give you an exact idea of how a cartridge sounds, they're probably the nearest thing you'll get to an audition, so should provide a fair amount of guidance. It wouldn't have hurt them to have one surface level with the record surface for the purposes of setting VTA approximately! If Cartridge A puts out a 10% greater signal level than Cartridge B, Cartridge A will, indeed, deliver a better signsl-to-noise ratio relative to the preamp's noise. The magnet is mounted fixed in the cartridge body. The sound is much better distributed, but not as good as the ZYX's 3D sound. The prices of the new MM cartridges: • Nagaoka JT-80LB: 229 euros (replacement needle: 149 euros Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Compared it to an Empire 2000Z and had a hard time deciding which was better. I did try with other cartridges mounted on AT Head shells, AT-LH 11gr, 13gr, ART9XI, AT33 Mono, and DS-Audio with the Hana Blue, and all are dead silent. I'm really concerned about a decently priced cartridge that tracks exceptionally and handles the inner grooves well (of course, with overall sound quality being important also). I love Nagaoka cartridges, but I really believe that at least lately are way overpriced. Thanks Technics & Nagaoka are indeed a great match. 5cm/sec) but the channel balance is rather better than Nagaoka's conservative 1dB rating Steve Hoffman Music Forums. That’s a 1984 US first pressing of Purple Rain and I can confirm it sounds as good as it looks. None of these "reviews" are really putting the cartridge under any kind of stress or evaluating real performance. The Sumiko Amethyst is described as warmer sounding with better bass compared to the 2m bronze . I think the Nagaoka carts have lower compliance compared to the VM500/700 series. AFAIK, Rega carts are about 14mm in height Topic: Nagaoka cartridges (Read 3229 times) martin_bell. Amazon has it for $499 which is cheaper than LP Gear ( $799). Featured content New posts Latest activity. Nagaoka’s MP-200 moving magnet cartridge delivers a superb all-round performance that leaves most rivals in the shade. Not much to it. perfectpawn Forum Resident. Buy a computer, get a free color printer and then be locked into our super high profit margin proprietary replacement ink cartridges. It performed way above its price level and great value. It is a good sounding cartridge, not sure how good yet, haven't done any comparisons but enjoying listening so far. Well, they do charge about twice as much up front as AT, so obviously a different business model, presumably they are both making a good profit It would be a more interesting comparison if AT still offered a MM cartridge with a boron cantilever, though that shouldn't add too much to the manufacturing cost, maybe $10 to $15 in quantity. Joined Jan 7, 2024 Messages 5 Likes 7 #1 So glad I found this forum. Page 12 of 35 < Prev 1 Only have 4-5 hours far but am really enjoying it - very different presentation compared to my AT33PTG/II + SUT. Option 1 - get a JN-P500 However, after much feedback here and other places, I glean the MoFi UltraDeck may just be superior, but it's not a fair comparison as its cost today is $2,500 vs 1200-GR at $1,700. 5x to 2x the Nagaoka number to compare to Welcome to the AK turn table forum. The Nagaoka is luxurious and romantic sounding For a cartridge of mass 7g, in a 12g arm, acceptable matches range from 11cu to 23cu. OT, but this explains a HELL of a lot: https://forums. 7 mil, and 1. I was greatly looking forward to this one, and so far, I must agree with the OP. I definitely concur with those advise tracking the Nagaoka in the 2 gram range. From what I can tell, the boron JN-P200 cantilever brings FINAL CONCLUSION: While I like the "aggressive" sound of the 2M Black on some duller recordings (it adds some liveliness), it definitely comes out as the worst tracker (probably due to the thick cantilever, which is HUGE compared to the other two, especially the ultra thin Nagaoka) and the fussiest cartridge in terms of surface noise. The retail price for the BK on the Nagaoka site is 50,000 Yen (+ 5000 tax), so around $335 at current exchange rate. These two seem to get good reviews on Thanks! It was a follow-up earlier discussion between Ilikevinyl & me, re: Nagaoka cartridges. The Nagaoka MP-150 was a replacement for a very I also found a discussion of the cartridge here. Very highly recommended. The target market for those entry level turntables are people who aren't likely to want to fuss with installing and aligning a new cartridge. The MP-110 strikes exactly the right balance to my ears - solid, tight bass, lack of surface noise, and relative (but not too much) warmth seal the deal. 4. Let’s get started! Table of Contents Hence, the winner here is the Nagaoka MP110 cartridge! Stylus. You will see a comparison between Nagaoka MP110 and Nagaoka JT80BK in 6 different songs. Research says a good cartridge is the Nagaoka MP 110. I'd be interested to hear a comparison between the MP500 and a Hana SL . I purchased a Nagaoka MP-500H cartridge new from cdjapan late last year and I have to say I've been quite disappointed with it. Where else can you get a cartridge with a Boron cantilever and line contact stylus for under $600?If it was on an MC cartridge it would be more like $3000. I'm currently using an MP-200. You cannot compare the vm95 with the nagaoka 200 that costs 3 or 4 times more. I run the Nagaoka MP-110. I recently purchased a Nagaoka MP-200 and it arrived this week, several weeks ahead of schedule. Nagaoka MP-500 Moving Permalloy Phono Cartridge, $899. S. Lukas VD New Member. Honestly, I think it's not a copy at all but a Nagaoka that was rebranded as Tesla and Lenco. Re: Comparison of Nagaoka/AT Carts. Straight comparison is difficult since I don't have MD3, but this has to be more or less same: bold, mids boosted where music is, very strong lows Speakers, yes, however I'm coming around that the TT, and in particular the tonearm, play a larger role than the cartridge. is always going to do better on inner groove tracking. Compare the same MC / MI cartridge with an elliptical and then with a shibata / Microline stylus and we talk. Other arms will permit other needles, depending on the characteristcs of the arms. The difference between the 200 headshell and the 300/500 headshell seems to be more like 8 grams, when you math it out. 500’s the same. AT offers a lot of cartridges under their own brand for less money and high performance. audio . The sound of MP-110 is on Might be the best option/what it is you’re really seeking. I do notice a difference, but not a $300 difference. Setup was a bit more challenging than my other cartridges given how close the stylus is to the body, and those chunky Ortofon tonearm leads make moving the cartridge on the head shell a bit more work. New posts Search forums. As of now, the Denon/Sony combo is my best. I can only JT-80BK (Black) just released in October 2020, and JT-80LB (Lapis Blue) will release later this year under Jewel Tone product line. ETA - Thanks for the link though. What is the difference between these two cartridges? Has anyone heard both and is the Nagaoka MP500 better than the MP50 I am currently using an old MP50 cartridge and I will be needing a new stylus for it. installing, and using high-end audio gear helps me provide thorough and comparative reviews. Nagaoka cartridges The only thing I can critisise a little is that compared to my last cartridge, that had a Gyger stylus, the treble is not quite so airy and detailed. Of course YMMV but it does show the relative qualities of these cartridges with the TT and tone arm not being limiting factors. New posts Latest activity. Nicely done video comparing two cartridges. It is one hell of a tracker and has greatly reduced background noise compared to the cheap-o AT95E I used to run. Nagaoka phono cartridges have received some rave reviews on the internet. Lab Report Last tested over a decade ago [HFN Feb '11], Nagaoka's 'Moving Permalloy' pick-up has remained very consistent in production. I just couldn’t resist sharing the moment here and glad it brings back some great memories of one of the best performers in my book, but first and foremost one of the best guitarists to have ever rocked our I agree with others, on these clips the Nagaoka has a more pronounced midrange & bass although through my DAC & headphones this is quite subtle (nice sound clips by the way). I agree with stratokaster that at similar prices one can get better cartridge. Switched it over to the SL-1200 MKII and that's when this cartridge started to sing. Article Commentary good reviews across hifi press. My only experience with Nagaoka is with the MP-110 on a Pro-Ject DC Esprit a few years ago. 5cu @ 100Hz, but comes out closer to 30cu in a tonearm resonance test, so similar to the BK difference. To be fair, neither the Nagaoka nor 2M Bronze have an "advanced" stylus shape. stevehoffman. anyone have any experience with the Sumiko Steve Hoffman Music Forums. Joined: 22 Feb 2014 21:28. I saw a comparison via a YouTube blogger comparing the EL to an Ortofon Quintet Blue and preferring it, the same blogger compared the MM Nagaoka 150 and concluded it was much better overall to the EL. That's glossed over a bit in his comparisons, but it's very important to me when buying a cartridge. I found a UltraDeck in mint/new condition for gross cost of $1,500 and pulled the trigger. The Nagaoka OTOH is very romantic sounding, less neutral, more euphonic. More detailed in treble I have always found that most of my cartridges struggle with test records at the "suggested" tracking force and most are far more stable/capable at about 3/4 up the range Nagaoka had a series of JT MM cartridges going back decades, even though they were not in production in recent years. But the more you break it in and listen to it, the more it captures you. Members. Experience the image solidity, detail resolution, and bass extension that made the Nagaoka MP-500 one of Stereophile’s Editors’ Top Picks For The Industry’s Best [] Whilst the Nagaoka are great cartridges they are not the bargains they were years ago. Highs are sweet and very slightly recessed compared to the AT (and very recessed compared to, say, the AT-VM540ML). 1mV (the Ortofon 2M series MMs will achieve up to 7mV/1kHz re. Now I potentially have to go out and spend even more money on this Nagaoka MP-110 when I have already spent over $400 on this new table. This tonearm has a published mass of 5. 2 I had a hard time switching from my denon dl110, but when I finally gave the nagaoka a chance I realized i wasn't going to miss anything. by DeepWave. Want to try a Nagaoka cartridge 3. I also want to thank Peter Scharman (PSE Audio Products), the Canadian Nagaoka/Jelco/Neotech distributor, for the review loan. Not an arbitrary comparison. MP500 = 442 compared to 231 before MP300 = 330 compared to 185 before MP200 = 221 compared to 116 before The manufacturers have released a press statement, saying that the price of the raw materials has increased so much, and this along with the comparatively small amount sold, means that they have had to increase their prices. What's new. My TT has the original arm, the light straight one. I still think the Blue is a bit brighter but not as much as I thought at first. Nagaoka JT-80 with VPI Classic 3 It's been 10 years since they announced new cartridges. Spea So I'm thinking about replacing my Bias 2 cartridge for my RP1, since I seem to have some problems tracking and with sibilance (especially on highs). I believe this sounds very similar. I just don't understand how a cartridge that is $100 would not sound much better than the Audio Technica LP-60 that is $100. 8g. The differences between the two decks are enormous. 2 grams) than the stock headshell on the TT, and they both sound amazingthey weren’t bad of course on the Settings - The cartridges were set with impedance and gain strictly following the manufacturers' recommendations according to the Manual. Grado Sonata, Moon 110 LP phono. haz2000 Forum Resident. That is, at 3 o' clock rather than 2 o' clock. Nagaoka MP11 phono cartridge - [English] Except for frequency response differences, the vastly different resonance frequencies seen above *may* be related to some of the sonic differences between the Ortofon and the Nag. The Fluance is a gorgeous-looking ‘table, but sonically is pretty entry-level. The Denon is an excellent tracker at around 1. The nagaoka in the vm95ml price tag it's the mp110 and if you say the 110 have more detail than the vm95 i think you'll be very lonely with that opinion. Some folks will argue in favor of the Nagaoka’s warmer (not necessarily more accurate) tonal balance and superior cantilever. , LTD. pexuf gzjer ajifohii rfc pig inpn wxllhmqc vhx snsalp uzr